416-8B Labels - Fakes?

**magnarc** · July 4th, 2011, 11:08 AM

ALTEC LANSING MODEL 416-8B LF 15" WOOFERS - CLEAN PAIR | eBay

This guy has 4, I dont recall ever seeing that style of label on a 416-8B. There is also no serial number, all my -8Bs have stamped serials.

I can see a date code there of 8726 I think so thats 1987, which is when a few of mine are from.

Are these fake labels?

**Todd W. White** · July 4th, 2011, 05:10 PM

Nope - they're real.

Altec reissued the 416-8B for a while in the late 80's and early 90's in response to some prodding from a few of us.

Unfortunately, they didn't market them as aggressively as they should have, and they didn't sell well.

I think I was one of the few AL Contractors who bought and installed them in any real quantity....

**Old Guy** · July 4th, 2011, 11:26 PM

I think they are the late ones as Todd says...I saw a pair and remember them but, dang that was 20 years ago...I barely remember this morning's coffee...

**bowtie427ss** · July 5th, 2011, 07:06 AM

Agree, late models. Note the dual terminal openings in the spokes of the basket/frame.

**Altec Best** · July 5th, 2011, 09:55 AM

They also have been re-coned (3-15-94) ,and only 7 years after manufacture.That in itself makes me wonder what kind of abuse they have been put through.Although they look pretty clean.I would be very interested to see the current T/S measurements on these motors !

**Old Guy** · July 7th, 2011, 05:04 AM

If they are used professionally, a 7 year recone is pretty normal...We used to replace HF diaphragms once a year as a PM.

Cones get tired. Especially if used for live stuff.

**westend9** · July 9th, 2011, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by Old Guy

If they are used professionally, a 7 year recone is pretty normal...We used to replace HF diaphragms once a year as a PM.

Cones get tired. Especially if used for live stuff.

Begs a question: what is the anticipated longevity of the 416 cone if used in a residence?

**Altec Best** · July 10th, 2011, 07:17 AM

Originally Posted by westend9

Begs a question: what is the anticipated longevity of the 416 cone if used in a residence?

Good Question ! As OG noted,I think it really depends on the application they were used in.I've seen 604 and 515 cones (Paper Surrounds) 20159 cones 50+ years old that were still in great shape ! As the saying goes, "They Don't Make Them Like They Used Too".

**bowtie427ss** · July 10th, 2011, 07:46 AM

...........it really depends on the application they were used in.

........ and the environment. I've seen Altecs that were residents in coastal Florida that had mold on the cones and cabinet and surface rust on all the screws and exposed ferrous parts. At the same time i've seen and own examples from the southwest that look like new 40 years later.